In about a month, he will have be given his sentence, which can include up to 6 months (or more) in jail, efficiently making him unemployable with "hate crime" charges on his record, all for making a joke to annoy his girlfriend.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a VERY dangerous precedent if it goes through. It effectively means that UK, the homeland of many great western values, has no freedom of speech and that courts can decide the context of your jokes for you, which has happened in this case.
If these issues matter to you in any way, there are some things you can do, especially if you are in the UK:
- follow the Liberalists or Sargon of Akkad who will be organizing actions to support Count Dankula
- write to your MPs if you are in the UK or tweet to certain people, here are some suggestions by Academic Agent
- DO NOT donate to any gofundme, kickstarter or any crowdfunding campaign unless officially endorsed by Count Dankula
- DO NOT threaten people related to this case, meme them into oblivion, yes, but DO NOT send any threats of violence
If any of these does not interest you, thank you for your time anyway.
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Well. If the musclegals weren't enough, this'll force my support. Glad the guy's GoFundMe is such a success too.
I'm good mate.
Listen if you think that Count Dankula's right to free speech is under threat, fine I agree with that. But Sargon and the Liberalist are not good people and they are not centralist.
Also he supports the colonial era and believes that Europeans subjugating the world was liberating. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpyt8B…
and aaaaaceace I highly recommend you actually read some right wing literature if for nothing more than to understand how the right thinks.
if we are gonna go forward and make any progress we need to understand all view points even the ones we hate... especially the ones we hate
one last thing, you said that sargon's action of sending porn to that alt right account was sexual harassment, mind explaining why?
It's hilariously awful. Every bit as bad as I'd imagined. these videos do a great job of making Sargon's case. Keep it up!
As an early 20th century feminist once wrote “I don’t agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Interesting to see that people like you do anything to stay anonymous yet slander people that you disagree with.
Lying about a tweet is also showing that you in fact are the one that is dangerous, not him.
I will be reporting your message for hate speech, you can discuss things without spreading hate.
For your 'not hate speech' thing:
"Hate speech is communicating in a way that is meant to offend and hurt somebody. It is usually based on a factor such as somebody's race, gender, ethnic group, sexual orientation, gender identity or religion."
You are clearly trying to hurt or offend Sargon, you are calling him a nazi which is rather offensive if you don't have actual hard proof and can get you into court rally quickly depending on country. You are also clearly hinting towards his gender as you use language pretty much only used by political correct idiots, feminists, antifa and black lives matters for example. Which leads to another, his ideologies are his own. Yes they ma hurt you in your feelings, but you completely ignore the fact that he may actually be right about what he says.
The fact that you dare to shout things like 'sexual assault', 'sexual harassement', 'racist, 'misogynist', to name a few actually makes you the bad person and dangerous extremist and not him. Can't you see the bigger picture here? Or is it the well known tunnel vision idea that you are following without knowing where that will lead you? Trust me, just shouting things that are not true will not make you a hero, it will not make you all mighty, it will not help your cause, it will not strengthen your beliefs. It will only destroy, and most likely those around you that you actually care for. I seen it happen so many times, you don't want to end up like that because you didn't use your brain before shouting something. It doesn't end well and you likely end up in a much worse place then you are willing to belief. It's up to you whether you belief me in that or not, I have 34 years of living on this planet and most likely a lot more hard life lessons then you ever will. It's up to you to figure out whether you want to be free from the bullshit stories and have a decent life with lots of loving people around you.
Having people around you that love you, does not mean it is a easy life. It means you will get put in your place, it means these people will tell you the truth no matter how hard it is. It means they will hurt you the most but not because they want to, but usually because you left them no alternative route in their mind. Love is not like in the movies and TV series, don't base your ideals on that bullshit. You know it's all faked just to get some ratings and there for money. Don't lower yourself to that, it isn't love for you as person it is love for ratings and money. Even if they have to shoot execute someone on life TV they will do that, the media has NO respect for anyone aside their ratings and money. Don't believe their stories, they are probably cause number 1 for people to belief in bullshit these days.
the problem is, he has also gone out of his way to debate the alt right, and the nazi's
he was attacked and called a liberal cuck for this.
and when he debated the left, he is called a nazi or an alt righter.
so the alt right/ nazi's think hes a liberal,
and the liberal/far left think hes an alt right
hes neither, hes center with all of his beliefs.
Protecting the rights of the individual must be the highest value of society, to foster mutual tolerance and respect towards the cultivation of the dignity of every person.
Constitutional democracy is the best way for a free citizenry to maintain a state and resist tyranny.
Property rights that begin with personal self-ownership and private property creates the most productive societies.
Freedom of speech
Freedom of expression is a necessary and fundamental pillar of a free society.
People possess agency and should be treated as such because treating people like victims becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Each individual should be governed by the same laws as their peers without arbitrary discrimination and be presumed innocent until proven guilty by a fair trial.
Everybody is free to practice their religion, or not, as long as it does not interfere with the rights of others.
these are all classical liberal values.
just because you disagree with him, does not make him a far left liberal, or alt right or nazi. it just means you disagree.
open discussion is better than no discussion.
I have watched every single one of Sargon's videos for the last two years (which is about the time I started following him) and I have also watched many of the videos he made before that. I have yet to see a single instance where he would show any kind of nazi-support or present himself as alt-right. Have you even watched any of his videos? Probably not because I can assure you that anyone who actually takes the time to do so will see that you're not telling the truth about Sargon. He is consistent with his ideals and opinions, which he holds true to no matter who they concern. He is a liberal and always has been, his positions aren't aligned with the alt-right or the far left in any way and (again) if you bothered to actually watch his videos, you would see this yourself.
But I am aware that many of the people on the far right or far left won't bother to watch his videos. Instead, they will just listen to the opinions of the people they follow and not bother to search for the truth themselves and make their own opinion. It's hard to think for yourself but it's easy to be told what to think by someone else. Which is exactly what you did. Your only evidence are a few videos and blogs written by other people, all of those people from the left. They are ideologically against Sargon and so it's easy to see why their opinion would be unflattering. At best it's unflattering, at worst they are being dishonest on purpose.
Stating the subjective thoughts that someone else wrote about Sargon as "proof" of his character is a misrepresentation of the objective truth. It would be the same as if I wrote a blog that said something bad about you and then someone else used that blog as evidence that you're an asshole without actually looking at what your ideas truly are. You probably wouldn't like it, if someone judged you like that, so why are you doing it to others? Try to think about it next time.
And, well... if you want to have a fair opinion of someone and their work, yeah you kinda should look at people who are against them as well as people who are with them. If you only listen to one side, you will not be able to create an objective opinion because your view will be clouded by the emotions of the person you are listening to. And that applies to important issues too. Of course, you can't do that will every trivial nonsense problem, but the big issues are definitely worth examining from both sides. So... yeah, I think you should also look at or mention people who like Sargon. It would definitely help you see their points and judge his ideas better, maybe even from perspectives you didn't previously consider, than if you only look at those who hate him.
As for the thing you mentioned about feminism. I said before that he criticizes extreme ideologies. And, in the recent years, feminism (and social justice) has become extreme, straying from the original purpose while not caring about those it should care about. This isn't a misogynistic position to take. (I wanted to say more but I have to go to work lol. If you're interested, we can discuss it more)
I would have to watch that entire video to be able to talk about it, but the very first thing I'd like to point out is that the video you linked was from 2016. As I recall, at that time BLM was pretty darn extreme. I'm not how they are these days, I haven't followed them that closely. He goes over their demands one by one, giving his opinion on them and many of them are pretty crazy. You sum up a 40-minute video by saying: "... tries to argue that black lives matter is a communist group because they believe in having shared goal with other groups of oppressed people". That's such a generalisation of everything he said, that is hurts. You don't talk about the points he's making, you just make a blanket statement and criticize that.He is not attacking BLM or individual members, but rather their demands and ideas, but you don't bother to talk about what he's actually saying.
Just look at some of these: Retroactive decriminalization of drug-related offenses and prostitution and expungement of records? Free education, full health care (ofc only for certain groups)? Reparations? It's basically a group of people demanding stuff for free which other groups do not or would not have. If any other group made these claims, they would be immediately dismissed.
As for feminism, you keep saying he's made a dozen of badly-made videos. Why were they badly made? Like.. what did he say wrong? Again, feminism has become more extreme, in my opinion, and it's not misogynistic to hold that view. The first wave focused primarily on basic rights such as property or parental and marriage rights which women lacked. The second wave focused mainly on voting rights. All of these were important issues which feminism tackled and they were fighting for equality. Currently, the most prominent feminist figures (well-known on the internet, at least, as this whole wave is mainly internet-based) focus on complete bullshit such as rape culture, wage gap or the patriarchy, which arguably aren't even a real thing. Not in the western world, at least. There are places in the world where women are treated horribly, of course, I'm not arguing against that, but our western feminists don't seem to care about those places much. Their feminism focuses on their ideology of women being oppressed and through that, they create a narrative where they are good and men are evil. They don't demand equality but they demand an equal outcome which will by its nature disadvantage someone else. And the moment someone goes against the narrative? Misogynist. Is it a woman? Internalized misogyny. They don't care about women, only about their rhetoric and shutting down anything that doesn't fit. There's ample proof of it out there, just browse through some of their Twitter profiles.